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		<title>By: Spaghetti Box Kids</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-1577</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaghetti Box Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I regard what you call a ‘joyfulness about yourself’ as self-esteem, and leave confidence to those who make a solid effort.  If you think that a person &lt;em&gt;starts&lt;/em&gt; with confidence before any effort is invested, or that a ‘learned’ lawyer or ‘skilled’ bricklayer is not confident in their talent, then that’s the difference between us. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I regard what you call a ‘joyfulness about yourself’ as self-esteem, and leave confidence to those who make a solid effort.  If you think that a person <em>starts</em> with confidence before any effort is invested, or that a ‘learned’ lawyer or ‘skilled’ bricklayer is not confident in their talent, then that’s the difference between us.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Uretzky</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-1570</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonda Uretzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 12:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps what you are calling  &quot;confidence&quot;  I would call proficiency, which is the result of hard work or time spent. 

I agree about children and playtime, and how indeed allowing children more playtime in school, as Finland does, allows their creativity to flourish and become part of their skill set in learning.  

Play is the critical tool in mastery of any subject. The work is to find your joy. 

 Putting the time can make you proficient, but to be joyful about your subject is to have confidence.  I suspect we have many learned lawyers and skilled bricklayers who are proficient...but not confident, as they put in the time to learn but did not follow their hearts. 

This is the start of confidence; knowing your heart and following its call. Confidence is that inner knowing that  springs from your heart, and does not need to be learned.

Confidence,  is not a result; it is a joyful starting place, a feeling that you are certain, no matter what, that what you want, you will achieve. 

Thus, forcing children to practice is counterproductive; each person knows what subjects feel right for them, and no amount of practice or hard work will change that natural feeling of joyful confidence.  Proficiency, perhaps...confidence, no. 

Confidence is sureness. Children understand this when they play; they create imaginary worlds and are confident in their creations.

 We learn this when we play as well; that the imagined, the feeling-good aspect, is what helps make real that which we want.  

Confidence is the joyful feeling that what you want is already on its way.  This is not self esteem; confidence is a sureness that comes from an inner knowing, not from anything that has to be proven. 

To me, confidence is an easy feeling, a joyfulness about yourself and your abilities. The idea that this joyful feeling springs from hard work and practice just doesn&#039;t follow. 

Without this confident joyfulness,  hard work and time spent can be futile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps what you are calling  &#8220;confidence&#8221;  I would call proficiency, which is the result of hard work or time spent. </p>
<p>I agree about children and playtime, and how indeed allowing children more playtime in school, as Finland does, allows their creativity to flourish and become part of their skill set in learning.  </p>
<p>Play is the critical tool in mastery of any subject. The work is to find your joy. </p>
<p> Putting the time can make you proficient, but to be joyful about your subject is to have confidence.  I suspect we have many learned lawyers and skilled bricklayers who are proficient&#8230;but not confident, as they put in the time to learn but did not follow their hearts. </p>
<p>This is the start of confidence; knowing your heart and following its call. Confidence is that inner knowing that  springs from your heart, and does not need to be learned.</p>
<p>Confidence,  is not a result; it is a joyful starting place, a feeling that you are certain, no matter what, that what you want, you will achieve. </p>
<p>Thus, forcing children to practice is counterproductive; each person knows what subjects feel right for them, and no amount of practice or hard work will change that natural feeling of joyful confidence.  Proficiency, perhaps&#8230;confidence, no. </p>
<p>Confidence is sureness. Children understand this when they play; they create imaginary worlds and are confident in their creations.</p>
<p> We learn this when we play as well; that the imagined, the feeling-good aspect, is what helps make real that which we want.  </p>
<p>Confidence is the joyful feeling that what you want is already on its way.  This is not self esteem; confidence is a sureness that comes from an inner knowing, not from anything that has to be proven. </p>
<p>To me, confidence is an easy feeling, a joyfulness about yourself and your abilities. The idea that this joyful feeling springs from hard work and practice just doesn&#8217;t follow. </p>
<p>Without this confident joyfulness,  hard work and time spent can be futile.</p>
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		<title>By: Spaghetti Box Kids</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaghetti Box Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rhonda- thanks for your thoughtful comment.  In response: I think Finland has an impressive educational model because they allow kids to play and explore for a longer period of time—two whole years as compared to most models.   That strengthens overall cognitive abilities, including attention span and the ability to focus,  because kids are more fully engaged in arranging and assessing meaning when they are having fun.  In other words, the skill set for learning is allowed to develop more fully.   The critical distinction is between learning &lt;em&gt;information&lt;/em&gt;, and learning &lt;em&gt;ability&lt;/em&gt;.  Hurrying kids into a formal academic setting may result in kids with more memorized information, but Finland’s approach results in kids with stronger learning abilities.  

As for kids’ confidence, I think we’re tangled in semantics.  It sounds like you’re addressing self-esteem: ‘the ability to believe in yourself despite setbacks and failures.’ I wouldn’t begin to argue with the merits of nurturing your child’s self-esteem.  A lot of love, patience and interest from parents makes all the difference in that regard.  Confidence, on the other hand, is derived from spending quality time on something or other.  I guess you could call that practice. (In the above example Finland’s children are more practiced at free-exploring solutions.) The gymnast who wows her audience spent untold hours strengthening her abilities.  Is she confident?  I would expect so.  

The point of my article is that confidence isn’t a catalyst, it’s a result.  The attempt to instill confidence with the old pep talk just doesn’t cut it.  It’s no substitute for quality time spent on an activity.  

As for the working man—you give me a cobbler, a blacksmith and a ship-builder, and I’ll show you three people more confident in their trade than the layman would be in those same endeavors.  Is their talent a result of their confidence?  No.  It’s a result of the hours, years spent advancing their skills.  Whether they&#039;re paid well is another matter entirely.

Cheers
-AV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda- thanks for your thoughtful comment.  In response: I think Finland has an impressive educational model because they allow kids to play and explore for a longer period of time—two whole years as compared to most models.   That strengthens overall cognitive abilities, including attention span and the ability to focus,  because kids are more fully engaged in arranging and assessing meaning when they are having fun.  In other words, the skill set for learning is allowed to develop more fully.   The critical distinction is between learning <em>information</em>, and learning <em>ability</em>.  Hurrying kids into a formal academic setting may result in kids with more memorized information, but Finland’s approach results in kids with stronger learning abilities.  </p>
<p>As for kids’ confidence, I think we’re tangled in semantics.  It sounds like you’re addressing self-esteem: ‘the ability to believe in yourself despite setbacks and failures.’ I wouldn’t begin to argue with the merits of nurturing your child’s self-esteem.  A lot of love, patience and interest from parents makes all the difference in that regard.  Confidence, on the other hand, is derived from spending quality time on something or other.  I guess you could call that practice. (In the above example Finland’s children are more practiced at free-exploring solutions.) The gymnast who wows her audience spent untold hours strengthening her abilities.  Is she confident?  I would expect so.  </p>
<p>The point of my article is that confidence isn’t a catalyst, it’s a result.  The attempt to instill confidence with the old pep talk just doesn’t cut it.  It’s no substitute for quality time spent on an activity.  </p>
<p>As for the working man—you give me a cobbler, a blacksmith and a ship-builder, and I’ll show you three people more confident in their trade than the layman would be in those same endeavors.  Is their talent a result of their confidence?  No.  It’s a result of the hours, years spent advancing their skills.  Whether they&#8217;re paid well is another matter entirely.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
-AV</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda Uretzky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda Uretzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 11:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confidence is the ability to believe in yourself despite setbacks and failures; therefore I couldn&#039;t disagree more with your opinion that confidence is a result of hard work and proven successes. If hard work was the magic key, then all the many deserving people who work extremely hard, some with rigorous work routines involving two or more jobs daily, would be our society&#039; most successful when sadly, they are our poor. I found it especially interesting that you quoted the fact that Finland has the highest educational standard yet doesn&#039;t begin rigorous educational programs til age 7; this seems to prove the opposite of your theory about nose-to-the-grindstone being the magic ingredient of  success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confidence is the ability to believe in yourself despite setbacks and failures; therefore I couldn&#8217;t disagree more with your opinion that confidence is a result of hard work and proven successes. If hard work was the magic key, then all the many deserving people who work extremely hard, some with rigorous work routines involving two or more jobs daily, would be our society&#8217; most successful when sadly, they are our poor. I found it especially interesting that you quoted the fact that Finland has the highest educational standard yet doesn&#8217;t begin rigorous educational programs til age 7; this seems to prove the opposite of your theory about nose-to-the-grindstone being the magic ingredient of  success.</p>
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		<title>By: Spaghetti Box Kids</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaghetti Box Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your input.  I appreciate the feedback.

-AV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your input.  I appreciate the feedback.</p>
<p>-AV</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it: &quot;...it requires effort to set up activities and exercises to help our child to strengthen a skill set.&quot;  That&#039;s right, what good is a pep talk if parents don&#039;t spend the time helping their child develop a set of skills?  Well stated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it: &#8220;&#8230;it requires effort to set up activities and exercises to help our child to strengthen a skill set.&#8221;  That&#8217;s right, what good is a pep talk if parents don&#8217;t spend the time helping their child develop a set of skills?  Well stated!</p>
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		<title>By: Spaghetti Box Kids</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaghetti Box Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t disagree with that.  The pep talk may be useful as a compliment, once the real effort has been established.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t disagree with that.  The pep talk may be useful as a compliment, once the real effort has been established.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, practise and preparation are what&#039;s important and what children need help with.  I guess the pep talk should be &quot;Have you practised?  Yes Are you prepared?  Yes Then you&#039;re going to be amazing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, practise and preparation are what&#8217;s important and what children need help with.  I guess the pep talk should be &#8220;Have you practised?  Yes Are you prepared?  Yes Then you&#8217;re going to be amazing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Spaghetti Box Kids</title>
		<link>http://spaghettiboxkids.com/blog/kids-confidence/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Spaghetti Box Kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it&#039;s a pretty weak approach when you think about it.  Daily routine, habit, what happens in the hours after dinner and before bedtime--that&#039;s where skills are developed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s a pretty weak approach when you think about it.  Daily routine, habit, what happens in the hours after dinner and before bedtime&#8211;that&#8217;s where skills are developed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, boosting confidence is no substitute for putting in the time.  The big &quot;pep talk&quot; doesn&#039;t cut it.  

Dan from Pittsburgh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, boosting confidence is no substitute for putting in the time.  The big &#8220;pep talk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t cut it.  </p>
<p>Dan from Pittsburgh</p>
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